Brain Food for Pioneering Spirits: A room dedicated entirely to real stories — jobs saved through a well-timed piece of advice, a book that changed how someone walks down the street, a first book deal born from a chance encounter. In Room #853 of the Deep Talk Club, participants share what working together has actually brought them. Listen in on the examples that came up and the perspectives that emerged in dialogue…
Note: This session was recorded live in German as part of the Deep Talk Club, so the video above is German-language audio only. What follows is an English translation of the conversation, lightly edited for readability — the back-and-forth between the moderator and participants is preserved, but the original timestamps and speaker names have been left out.
A wonderful good morning to you. Today we continue with experiences and reports. I already announced this briefly yesterday, and I’m looking forward to it today, I’m already very, very curious. Namely, whether that’s the shows with authors, experts, the daily reflection rooms in Deep Talk, podcast episodes, now with transcriptions being published, the knowledge base I announced yesterday, which we’re currently developing for you, cooperation talks running in the background with various providers up to universities that are currently taking place, books, sample readings, articles on various topics, courses, seminars, workshops on various topics in the field of neuroscience, behavior in harmony with the latest technologies, coaching, consulting, mentoring, or also actions like the advent calendar that happens annually, much, much more that maybe hasn’t even been listed here yet. All under the umbrella of Pioneering Spirit with Brain. And there are countless success stories in this context, like, for example, a few hours of consulting that resulted in a contract where the investment was multiplied more than thirtyfold, or the savings that would have resulted from a wrong decision in an emotional real estate purchase, if the numbers, data, facts hadn’t been considered together in the appropriate framework, just to name a few examples. Yet these experiences often don’t get shared externally, sometimes for time reasons, sometimes because someone doesn’t even think of it, or maybe doesn’t know how to best express themselves, whatever the backgrounds are. That’s why I thought about it and decided to use today’s room to give you the opportunity here, in this framework, to simply share your experiences. I already mentioned yesterday that, since we’ve basically decided to record these rooms and the whole thing also gets transcribed, we then have the opportunity afterward to maybe pull out this or that as a quote, to place it accordingly in various places etc. So that’s basically also the goal behind this. And that’s why today, under this room topic of experiences and reports, we’re looking at the question of to what extent working with me and the Deep Talk Club with all its facets has moved you forward. Just gathering together, gladly also with concrete examples, if any come to mind. So is there, for example, a certain book that moved you forward, a concrete aha moment that arose from one of the rooms, a product or a service you acquired in the past weeks and months, almost years really, basically we can already talk about years, a network that possibly arose, or a contact that helped someone in your circle, a project that arose through contacts that emerged here too, and moved your goals, moved you a step forward with your goals. Maybe a prize, we have various actions taking place here, and maybe something resulted from that prize that moved you a step forward again. So there are, I think, really, really diverse possibilities of what can be picked up here and what we can talk about at this point too. So I’m very, very curious, would be very happy if one person or another uses this opportunity here too, to come into exchange about this or that accordingly. And anyone who, for whatever reason, doesn’t want to use the stage for that, of course also has the option to simply use the chat and put in this or that there, then I can read that out accordingly too. And yes, another quick reminder, the room is being recorded and afterward also transcribed, published and so on. So anyone who joins automatically agrees that this information, or also the recording, gets used here and published. Then we have three small room rules for anyone who might be here for the first time today and maybe wants to share something, who otherwise maybe isn’t so often at Deep Talk, but might still have had experiences or used one service or another. Namely that’s the profile photo where you’re clearly recognizable, first and last name, and at least one sentence in the bio. And as I said, whoever wants can alternatively also use the chat then. Yes, and with that the opening round is basically open. I’ll gladly mute myself now to see who’d like to join, to share their first thoughts on the aspect of experiences and reports.
A wonderful good morning, dear Andreas.
A wonderful good morning, dear Yasemin. I actually believe that reticence prevails today, because this topic is so diverse and the headline gives so much, experiences and reports. I think we make experiences every single day. Let me bring an example that fits me. Maybe it’ll also give one person or another the opportunity to think back over the days that we let pass by us in review, to some extent. I was in Dortmund yesterday at an event of the economic development agency, which was about the topic of Genesee, about HR and changes, and I actually had the wonderful experience that entrepreneurs, after the conversation, after such a talk, say, well thanks, I was able to completely change my perspective and get a new view of things, and that’s this nice experience report for me, or maybe let’s call it feedback instead of experience report, that all the experiences the entrepreneur had in the past suddenly allow for a completely new view of things when I change perspective and also allow for a different view, different values, and maybe also different approaches.
Yes, thank you so, so much. I find it quite exciting that you use the term feedback in this context. I quite specifically and deliberately didn’t use that in this context, because feedback also means, for example, giving constructive feedback in the sense of what could be done better. And the goal of the room today is really to share experiences and reports. That means, I experience this quite often, that the participants of the room too, every day, for example in the closing round or such, pick up various things and say, that really moved me forward, or that will keep resonating with me, or similar. And basically what I’m going for is that we use this room precisely for that, to just look. I’ve opened up so many examples, whether that’s the reflection rooms in Deep Talk, whether that’s the authors’ breakfasts, whether that’s the experts invited as guests here, services that have already been used here by people, the podcast episodes we have, or similar. So not to talk generally about it somehow, but really to look at what working with me, or also Deep Talk with all its facets, has actually brought you here, to put that into words. And I find it quite exciting to actually observe or notice that today, now, I’m very grateful, Andreas, that you’ve now come to my side, so to speak, but I find it quite exciting to observe that in the moment when we want to gather that, suddenly too little comes at this point, and that surprises me a bit, honestly. So I’ll gladly probe a bit more there. Andreas, do you want to follow up on that, or should we bring in Jürgen first?
Well, I don’t want to be unnecessary, but then of course I’ll gladly go into exactly that topic. I believe that we see far too many things far too much as a given. You, with this room, have practically become part of my daily routine for a very long time now. And what the whole thing has brought me is very clear, that at the beginning of this room, when you all started with the whole topic, this opportunity to really go deep into these topics, that brought me personally a great deal. That was a kind of experimental lab for me to some extent. I could try things out. Every time, and this is actually a huge compliment to you too, regarding this endurance and then also handling all these situations so professionally, I took something away for myself again and again. Because my credo, and I’ll keep carrying that around with me, is that I listen to understand, what does the world look like through the perspective of other people? And that’s brought me a great, great deal there. Whether that’s authors’ breakfasts, for example also the one with dear Rolf Schmiel, where afterward there was the opportunity to work together with him to some extent, which I personally used for myself, which brought me a lot. I actually believe that with what you do, at a time when communication was compressed to the digital, because in our environment, externally, we had no other option, due to Corona for example, that personally brought me a great, great deal, to improve communication, to throw out my theses and get feedback on them, how does society see that, which to some extent is reflected here in our room too. So at this point I can only say thank you very much for that, because I’ve taken away a great, great deal so far, and I hope and am convinced that I’ll take away a great, great deal more in the future too.
Yes great, thank you so, so much. There were quite a few aspects in there too. Let me pick up the concrete example with the contact Rolf Schmiel, maybe, because not everyone might be able to place or classify him. Maybe you’d like to specify here what exactly that brought you, this contact to Rolf Schmiel at that point?
If we’re entrepreneurs, then have a topic that maybe also serves a niche. I do consulting, advise companies, celebrate schools, listen to young people, present the company, and it’s something I’ve already been doing for two years, and at the time it was a topic that was smirked at on all sides, left and right, and there we had, above all, this contact to Rolf Schmiel, who is a TV psychologist, but has a format with which he shows you how you can prepare your topics and put them so precisely that it can also have an effect beyond this analog world, toward TV formats, radio formats and so on. And there I was able to sharpen my work and put it so precisely, to then bring it specifically into communication. And meanwhile interviews have developed from that, podcasts. Four weeks ago I was on WDR with my topic, WDR accompanied me into the schools, did a live interview about it in the studio. So in the end a great, great deal emerged from that, which paid into my personal brand, into my business, but also my heart topic of young people, so much that despite all the looks from left and right I stuck with it, and now after two years you notice it, you see it everywhere right now, all talk shows, whether Lanz or whoever else, talk about AI, young people, no one has had Generation Alpha on their radar so far, who are currently being raised by influencers, and a lot is happening there, and that helped me to position myself clearly again and also find the communication paths that ultimately pay exactly into that.
Yes, wonderful. Thank you so, so much. Maybe you’d like to give a few concrete examples here again. You’ve been seen very often in various formats in the past weeks, months. Who all invited you? Where have formats emerged from this now?
A great deal has actually emerged. So podcasts from people with big podcasts, from the speaker scene, from companies now, through these TV segments too. So I’m now in Hamburg in May in the banking and insurance world, in front of company participation managers, marketers who want to understand, what does social media do to young people? Why should companies use social media? How does it need to be used? It’s a totally great event. I’m now in Frankfurt in June at a big event where the banking world comes together. And worldwide, actually, I mean. There are representatives from various banks from Japan, from Singapore there. Where I’m on the hot seat on the first day, and on the second day it’s about the topic “I see something you don’t see,” where it’s simply about taking the perspective young people have, which maybe parents and entrepreneurs can’t take, because they didn’t come into contact with social media at a very young age. And what happens now, if in the past your friends in the analog world had a bad influence on you, and maybe one person or another among you still knows the saying, well, you have a bad circle of friends, go find yourself new friends, they don’t have a good influence on you. And what happens now, if this influence comes from influencers, and companies, but also parents, don’t want to devote themselves to these tools, because they dismiss them as nonsense. What effects does that have? What does this dopamine kick do? What does this comparison do? I’m the most beautiful and the best. We’re all gaming. What does that do to young people, and what happens to communication and language? I’m now also in Munich at a big insurer, in a conversation, at the end of May too. So a lot is happening, and all of that emerged through this clear positioning, through the overall format ultimately.
Yes, really really cool. Thank you so, so much. Yes, then let me bring in Jürgen. A wonderful good morning, Jürgen. What aspects come to mind for you?
Good morning, dear Yasemin. Good morning, Sabine, Andreas and everyone else. Let me respond directly by saying, one of my experiences, and I think that’s how you and or part of you know me too, is that my passion, others call it mania, for analyzing terms in a context or also bringing them into contradiction and discussing that and coming to an agreement, has found an enormous breeding ground here with you, dear Yasemin, in this room, for which I’m very grateful, because, and this is now the ego side, I’ve certainly experienced and learned a lot from that for myself, for my thinking, for my mental flexibility, but also the opening up to alternative, different views on things and having to have other views. For that once more my heartfelt thanks. And something else spontaneously occurred to me, occurred due to the silence Andreas also addressed. For me it would, I think, rather be that someone comes with an answer when you ask, what do you know? But I think it’s harder to answer the question, what have you experienced? And now open parenthesis, did we actually already have a room about experience? So for me the difference, the necessity compared to knowledge, an accessing, a having, an access possibility to coded and uncoded information, the next step is experience, is also classifying this accordingly into an overall context. And there I come, for myself, to the second point of benefit from the almost daily being together with you, that the point Andreas also raised is also a really important one for me, namely that I’ve experienced that all our contributions, mine too in that sense, also bring benefit to others. And that’s become a daily anchor for me, to say, or to start the day. I think that’s not everyday. I’ve already brought benefit to myself and others from 8 to 9am. Heartfelt thanks again for that, and that would be my contribution to that.
Yes great, thank you so much, Jürgen. Yes, then let’s go directly to Sabine and see what Sabine would like to bring in too. Dear Sabine, a wonderful good morning.
A wonderful good morning to the round. It was clear to me that I’d say something today, but I didn’t want to be the icebreaker, especially since you have high standards for your answers. But let me start with how I think about it. So the whole progression, I was there almost from the beginning, sometimes more sometimes less, so for me too 8 to 9 is always basically AirPods in the ears, sometimes with my husband at breakfast, then he says, you’re not listening to me again, no, but I’m listening to Yasemin, so that happens too. But what I’d summarize is the transformation of the room, what that did to me, what it gives me daily. So right at the beginning it was with four people, there was somehow a different topic every day, there was discussion, you first got familiarized with what Clubhouse even is. I often heard around me, what’s a Clubhouse, what’s a Clubhouse? And well, I was in many rooms, only one room is left, and that’s yours. And then, when you took that over yourself again, it of course went much deeper. And I attended coachings on the side, they always go more and more into the topic, even if they might not want to, higher, further and and and. And I took away for myself this higher, further, where do I even want to jump to? I’m actually happy. My job is actually fun for me. I didn’t need to be more balanced, and I tried to set other priorities for myself a bit too. And there I have to say, your room helped me a bit, or myself. Whether that’s the books, I think in the last half year I’ve only had books from you lying around. Well, not from you, but from your authors’ breakfast. And that’s already quite time-intensive. Right now I’ve looked at the Atlas of Decision-Makers here. Yes, I could of course tell many stories about diving into that, but then I just have to say, do I still want to go there or don’t I? What also brought me a lot is simply maybe understanding my children better. Whether that’s through Andreas for example with his Generation Z, I got a whole different vibe there. We often discuss in that direction, and I bring input from your room, and I think I didn’t have that before. I also had, I’m allowed to say this too, I was the lucky winner of a coaching session with you. It was a very intense hour. I wrote a whole page of notes. I have to say to my shame that little of it has been implemented, I still have the page lying here. But that’s not because I didn’t understand it and don’t want it, but because I always say, one more thing on top and one more thing on top. This focusing is still hard for me. But Yasemin, really great, I think you already did something with me. Thank you.
Yes great, thank you so, so much. And yes, and if I remember correctly, you’re also one of the winners, so to speak, for example within the framework of the advent calendar too, where there were many winners of books and so on too. So not just from the authors’ breakfasts, where you yourselves ordered books, but also from these actions, and the coaching was one of those too. Maybe you’d like to, do you have anything in mind regarding books and similar that you also won and how that concretely moved you forward? Maybe you have one or two titles or something in the back of your mind that are still stored there, so to speak.
Can you hear me?
Now we can hear you.
I went outside, because the concrete walls in our house sometimes don’t allow it. Now we can’t hear you again.
Yes, quite a few books, but not all. So I’ve read all of them, I can say that for sure. But what I also achieved through that, I saw, for example, Yvonne de Barck, I also saw her in parallel in another workshop. I also saw her from Who Finance, they still wanted—now I can’t hear you anymore right now, Sabine. So at the workshop I still caught that. Does it work again now?
Yes, now it works again.
Okay, so I can’t go any further outside. I heard the hobby monks. I have… (unintelligible) …only recently. I still have the second book lying there. I haven’t started that one yet. So I’m someone who doesn’t absorb that much.
Oh too bad, the connection is coming and going, Sabine. Unfortunately we’re only hearing you halfway right now. I don’t know if it’s my connection or your connection. Could of course be both.
Then it’s unfortunately the area here. Then we have to at this point—
Yes, I also have pure connection on. Then let’s leave it there.
Yes, too bad. Thank you anyway, dear Sabine. But the beginning was at least good to hear. Yes, then let’s take a look, Marc, you’ve also been here for a long time. Maybe you also have a few aspects you can and would like to bring in at this point.
Good morning to the round. Dear Sabine, I’ll join you there. I feel the same way, that with many seminars or offers I read, I always come across ones that have something sect-like about them. A million in five months, never work again, customers without acquisition, and where everything sounds like, hey that’s great, all I need to do is lie in bed, everything else runs by itself, and then I have the feeling, no, that’s not, that doesn’t match my experiences or what I want to do, and I remember once finding a book from Yasmin, and got it as a gift, won it, namely “Crisis, what you make of it,” and this book helped me a lot in that I engaged with the future, what could a crisis be? And that’s pretty brutal when you’re honest with yourself. A crisis for me, for example, would be if opinion toward China changed the way it’s now happening with Russia. Because then my whole business model would collapse. And and and. What would happen if I no longer had a supplier? What could I do then? Could we go to a different country? And and and. That of course doesn’t happen. But engaging with the future, what could happen, takes away the fear. And you can work on a plan B and a plan C, even though you don’t need it yet at all. And then feel active again. Not as someone something is being done to, but as someone who keeps the reins of action in hand in an emergency. And the second thing, which I of course like to think back on, is the authors’ breakfasts, about Patrik Wenke, the happyologist, who also redirected the focus back onto small things. Or Dr. Mario Herger, whom I find fantastic, whom I’ve heard a few times already, where we’re just talking about ChatGPT. I remember the great interview with Yasemin, where Mario Herger talked about fear of technologies. When telegraph poles came up, people thought diseases would get transmitted, really, really spooky. Or the mirror, that got so burned in, that the mirror is really, really bad, because women would really only look at themselves in the mirror and then no longer be able to contribute to helping around the house or raising the children and and and. And I remember that very, very fondly whenever the ChatGPT discussions come up again. Just as an increase.
Yes, great, thank you so, so much. And you can also gladly check that a bit yourselves. I just asked myself, I mean, even with Andreas, for example, when I asked the question, which shows have resulted from that or something? I have a bit of the feeling that it might also have something to do with this modesty we’ve learned, that we maybe don’t quite put this or that into words in the moment we have the opportunity to. So with Andreas, European Parliament and such comes to mind now, that wasn’t mentioned at all. Or Marc, with you, what spontaneously comes to mind now, apart from the aspects you’ve already mentioned, is something like the great personalities like Patrick Wenke, Mario Herger, that’s of course all justified. But what I find much more interesting in this context, and much more worth sharing, in quotes, is for example, you became an author. Would you like to tell us about that experience?
Yes and you’ve hit on a point there, you’ve hit a nerve, which also has to do with our beliefs again, that I actually don’t like putting myself in the foreground, but yes, I have, through, and that also has to do with you, I met Johanna Dahm in your room and had breakfast with Johanna Dahm, and Johanna Dahm, if you’ve listened to her or met her, she has such a captivating energy, and she also said, you can, well, I’m convinced you’re exactly the right person for our Ocean Cleaner project. So a project, that’s an organization, a new one, where it’s about keeping the oceans clean. And once you’ve seen the pictures of what’s going on there, I’m not flying to the Caribbean now, I’ve only followed it on the internet, that the oceans are full of trash, really full of garbage. And then I said, that’s a great project, and in this Atlas of Decision-Makers, which this Wien also mentioned, it’s about 30 authors participating for free in a project, a charitable project, where the profits then get donated to this Ocean Cleanup organization. And for me that was a totally great success, and I would have loved to tell my mother about it, because I finished technical college with a D in German, because I never managed to properly interpret that damn Kafka. I regularly got a D in the Kafka interpretation, which led to a D in German overall. And the feeling of holding my own book in my hands with a D in German, that’s just so indescribable, that I asked my girlfriend to invite me to the school too, to tell exactly the kids what Andreas also does, the teenagers. Believe in yourselves and your dreams. And a D in German doesn’t stop you from also writing a book or becoming an author. And if you have speech impediments, then you can practice. That doesn’t stop you either from attending an acting school if you want that. And don’t let others tell you, by the way that’s also a topic of my book, what you all can’t do and what you don’t want to become, but rather become what your heart leads you to. That was a really, really great experience for me.
Yes, great. Thank you so, so much. By the way, I’ve just developed a topic for a room out of that again. So I think we need at some point here, after we’re through with the next overarching theme, something again in the direction of what I value about you or what my strengths are or something, that we really, let me say, learn to talk about our successes too, and about our strengths, or whether that’s successes, strengths, characteristics, abilities, that we maybe also, to some extent, yes, can put aside this modesty too, and that it’s also okay to talk about it. And I find that important too. So I don’t know what to say about it, but I find it important. And I have the impression we’re allowed to tackle that again too. Maybe that’s also encouraging for one person or another here too.
Yes, and Marc, another thing occurs to me. Namely I can still remember that in a room where we had an author with us too, it was about the topic of finances and such, and funding. And you’d told afterward at some point, in this context, that jobs had been secured through that. Maybe you’d like to share this experience with us again too. That was, could you say the name again?
I think that’s allowed, because he really achieved an incredible amount. The name doesn’t come to me right now for the author. I’d actually have to check again right now.
I’ll gladly do that in parallel. Okay, exactly.
And namely, I was also in an interview with you, I don’t even know, it wasn’t an authors’ breakfast, it was more of a Tuesday, a Tuesday session. And I’d currently heard from a friend I work with that there were difficulties in the company. And I knew he had a bank meeting that week. And the balance sheets didn’t look so good, like with many companies during Corona times, that lost revenue. And I’ll never forget how I hung on the lips of your guest, who simply said, if you have a bank meeting, don’t tell the banks. Because a banker of course looks at that and says, oh, Mr. Schentschetski didn’t do so well this year. I see you made less revenue. And now you also want money from us. You need further credit. That’s exactly why I’m here. Yes, I’m sorry about that. Everything’s pointing downward. You won’t get any money from me at all. But the trick, or rather, was, if I said, no, I made less revenue, but I reached my goal. I knew Corona was a difficult time. I adjusted the revenue targets. We’re exactly on plan. We’re glad we kept so many customers. There’s a silver lining, there’s a silver lining. And I don’t even know what you want. Everything’s running according to plan for us. That was the content and the message from your guest. And that led to my friend’s bank meeting resulting in the company getting a loan. And I think it was 40 jobs. And that was really hanging by a thread. And they hadn’t counted on getting this loan from the bank. And practically worked on their presentation for the bank late into the night, completely reworked, and then to be able to present that the next day. And through this help, as I said, 40 jobs were saved.
Yes, wow, thank you so, so much. And it’s already been a while, and that’s also maybe the reason why the name isn’t immediately fully present. It was actually an authors’ breakfast on 11/7/2021, and we’re now in ’23. Christopher Käser-Ströbel. Namely he was with us with his book “Quick Guide Business Financing.” Yes, and from that this result emerged, so to speak. And I think that’s also a result we mustn’t forget here, in quotes, when we reflect on and remember how many jobs, I think it was around forty-something jobs, that you talked about. Marc, is that correct?
Yes, that’s correct. And if you also then see, those aren’t just the jobs, but how many families and children depend on that too. That’s not just about 40 jobs, but 40 families who have to pay for a home, who have to pay rent and and and. So that’s 40 livelihoods.
Yes, great. Thank you so, so much. And you’re also one of the people who was also at the event, among other things in cooperation with Speakers Excellence, and also here live on site gathered impressions, made contacts etc. Maybe you’d like to tell us more about the event too. And I’d also like to look, namely, I don’t know, well, Raphael, if you’d like, you can gladly join too. You were at the online event “Neuroscience for Practice” too. I know you also submitted a written review. Oh, and I just see, Sonja is here too. So if you want, you can of course also share your experiences from this event too. Marc, maybe you’d like to tell us more about this event, in Rosenheim I think it was, you were there too.
Yes, and that also led to me participating in the book project, because, I hope I’m pronouncing it right, correct me, Gerd Kulhavi is the managing director’s name.
Gerd Kulhavi.
Exactly, a super guy, a super guy. We were really lucky at this event, that’s quite stressful for the man too, when such an event takes place. He of course also has to greet the personalities, they expect that too. And he still took the time to sit down with us for three quarters of an hour. And afterward Mr. Schweizer came too, amazing. So being able to see such a man live once, he has a presence and a charisma at his age. That really blows you away. He fills the whole room. And this 45-minute interview you did with Mr. Kolhavi on stage, that was about the topic of entrepreneur radiance, that it’s important as a managing director to have radiance, and that that’s a leadership responsibility and can’t be left to anyone else. And that impressed me very, very much, because I hadn’t engaged with the topic of radiance so much. I don’t have employees now, I’m a one-man show, and that’s good for my company too. But through this book project, which also emerged through your room, namely through Dr. Johanna Dahm, if you now search on Google, if I have contact with customers and customers look for me and ask, what kind of guy is this who wants something from me, and if you enter my name into Google, through the algorithms, we’re both connected, dear Yasemin, and immediately the book too, and then you’re remembered as an author, and a friend of mine really asked me, what do you get out of it if you enter your name and you now appear as an author. I say, that’s also great, better to appear as an author than in a police record with a wanted notice, and that also has the effect that we grow our radiance and become visible externally.
Yes amazing, thank you so, so much, and you just mentioned that we also managed to bring Jochen Schweitzer up onto our stage at this event too, so to speak. That’s not a given either. We were all mega happy about that, and a great encounter, great person, great impulses received. And later he was also here at Deep Talk, under the umbrella of bestselling authors, at the authors’ breakfast accordingly too. And you’ll probably remember that, and if anyone missed it, gladly listen into the podcast again too. Yes, Raphael, a wonderful good morning to you. Which experiences would you like to share?
Yes, Yasemin, I’m also super happy to be here every morning, that’s still it, and I find it awesome. I sometimes really rejoice inwardly to be allowed to experience things too, or something that’s mega exciting in the discussion rounds, which also brings me forward a lot. You wanted to hear something about our neuro workshop. I found it awesome. So I really found it great. So I admire you, how you do that, how much time you invest, what knowledge you have, what knowledge you share, how you build that up. Thanks also for the explanation that everything is planned and how it works. I find it really inspiring, and I’m really happy to learn a lot of new things there, to add things to my training. I’m in a constant feedback loop when I’m in the room, just to catch what I know, what I can do, what I hear, what’s happening there. In the background I’ve also really talked to one or two participants, because I’m curious. I’m simply interested in what people are doing, what’s happening. Andreas’s development, for example, Christa was online too, I haven’t talked to her yet. And Mark and Patrick or something, just talking to them, that’s just, well, just cool. There are a lot of similarities. Mark, your radiance isn’t just toward your employees, it’s also toward your customers. And I noticed that too, somehow, what energy you yourself radiate. But Yasemin, nothing against you, so nothing against your radiance, I find that good too. I think you’re on a good path, and I’m happy to keep watching that, and to keep being there within the time constraints available. Yes, that’s how it is. So enough of the praise. I just find it awesome. So thanks.
Yes, great. Thank you so, so much. Yes, Sonja, you’d probably like to follow up too.
Yes, a wonderful good morning. Well first of all I find it totally nice that you do such a room where you also quite specifically ask for these experiences and reports. The courage that would take, many more people would need to muster that, or would be allowed to muster that, because I think it’s absolutely appropriate that when you do such great work like you do, and so continuously, that you also explicitly and specifically ask for such feedback sometimes. And that’s why here comes my feedback now. I find it wonderful, first of all, what impulses for contemporary topics you bring into this room here. That’s all set up very broadly, and gives me, as a neuro-nerd who’s very focused only on the topic of neuro, simply a broader view of topics that are currently being discussed and worth discussing. And I find that extremely valuable, especially also how the exchange takes place here in the community. It’s so appreciative and so wonderfully moderated by you. So you’re a really great role model for me in very many aspects. And what I also really like is that you regularly work on publications, create them quickly, provide them here, promote them here, and those are simply great content too, that move you forward and are very enriching. And that you also grow into new topics. And also with the neuroscience day, you didn’t throw in the towel there either, when it didn’t take place as planned, but thought—
I’m so passionate about the topic, I’ll do my own event about it, and you offered this Neuroscience for Practice. And for me alone, just because you offered it, that was reason enough for me to definitely use that ticket. And that was also very, very valuable for me, to see which topics someone who looks at it purely from the scientific side, or preferably from the scientific side, addresses and highlights, and simply to recognize that there are a lot of overlaps there, and also see a few differences. And that’s super, super valuable for orientation. And that also shows me that the topic is very practice-relevant and interesting for many people too. We simply need much more of this neuro-enlightenment in the whole entrepreneurial world, and not just in the entrepreneurial world, but also in minds generally. So thank you for your great work. That’s very, very enriching and valuable. And thank you.
Yes, great. Thank you so, so much. And I’d like to ask again, because I just thought of AI, artificial intelligence, because of the new and regular publications. That’s one of the recent publications that was created relatively quickly, actually within 24 hours, just to show what’s possible with AI. Following that there was also another online event, where I’d also indicated that you could either be there live or watch the recording afterward too. Maybe there was one person or another here who downloaded the book as an e-book, or ordered the print version, or was at the course, or watched the recording afterward. Maybe you could share something about that too, could someone share something about that too. Was anyone of you there who can bring in experiences about that?
Yes gladly, Sabine.
Yes I looked at both books and have by now also made my first post about AI. I would never have done that if it weren’t for you. And I gave it to my daughter and afterward, I just let it happen and then afterward, she just waved it through too, she always has something to criticize, and then I wrote to her afterward, this came from ChatGPT. And I think I wouldn’t have dared to do that alone, because I wouldn’t have even had the idea. That’s certainly great, Yasemin.
Yes, great, I’m happy to hear that. And those are also things, that’s also nice to learn about. If we weren’t talking about it now, I wouldn’t have found that out at all, so to speak. So of course I’m happy to follow such things too. And especially also results that emerge like that, that you really share them too, so I can catch that too, because I think a lot of what happens, or what emerges from it, we, and you probably know this too, often don’t even notice, because it’s simply not talked about. So it’s all the more important that we talk about these experiences and learning successes, so to speak, and always keep it in mind too, in quotes.
I’d like to briefly pick up too, someone wrote in the chat, the secret patterns of language. I think I got that tip here. And I found the episode about freedom exciting. There I regretted that playback on Clubhouse is disabled. Thank you so much also for sharing in the chat. I appreciate that a lot too. And if I saw that correctly, Marc, you also wanted to follow up. Did I see that correctly earlier?
Yes, I wanted to follow up too. Namely, we’re in a reflection room here. And it went through my head last night that I’d call your room microscoping too. For me it’s microscoping, because microscoping means making small things clear and visible from a short distance. And that happens really, really often, that things that actually have to do with us, that slumber in the unconscious, that are hidden, get made clear and visible from a short distance, namely the distance to ourselves, through you.
Yes, great, dear ones. Thank you so, so much. Really a lot has come together now. I appreciate that a lot. And yes, then if you, yes Sabine gladly.
Something else just occurred to me, I was just over at the books, all the ones I have there, and I also saw the Florence book, which I’ve meanwhile also read, and there I have to say, this diversity is amazing. So I think I probably would never have bought that book, because I wouldn’t have seen myself as somehow racist-leaning or anything. But when Florence presented that, I thought, you’re buying that. I read that, and I walked down the streets completely differently afterward. So I didn’t, well this aha effect from that simply, and I also have a lot to do with foreign customers, that shakes you awake a bit again and again and makes you think, well maybe it doesn’t have to be that way. So great.
Yes great, thank you so, so much. Marc, gladly.
Yes, I’ll join in right away, dear Sabine. That was an aha effect for me too, with Florence. I also always thought I’m polite and I’m open, and when I saw people, let’s say they’re Japanese, that’s easier to imagine, and you say to someone quite automatically, without thinking about it, wow, you speak German really well. And Yasemin has probably said this before too. Maybe it’s because I was born here. Oops, I thought, faux pas. I’ll never say to anyone again, you speak good German, because I simply don’t know the backstory.
Yes, great, thank you so, so much. And that also shows how important this diversity ultimately is too, and how these things are interwoven with each other. So it might appear at first, on one side or another, as if that had nothing to do with each other somehow, but especially this unconscious bias too is a topic, yes, whether it’s about beliefs, whether it’s about the topics we pick up here every day. That means, here we always have all these intersections, so to speak, too. And in that sense it’s also this consideration. And that’s why, for example, yesterday there was the suggestion that maybe we could pick up something like health or something too. Also this wholeness, so looking at the whole thing under a wholeness, so to speak, because we’re never just professionally on the go or just privately on the go or something, but personal development also has really, really many facets. It’s important to also serve different facets here accordingly. And the book that was just mentioned is by Florence Brokowski-Schickert. And she’s actually already been at the authors’ breakfast twice now too. And I’d also like to briefly mention, that’s also, for example, the reason why the authors are also very happy to be there even on holidays etc., for example, or despite holidays too, not just in a “solo effort,” in quotes, but also, for example, the annual authors’ breakfasts we have, which of course also offer the opportunity not only for us to come into contact with these people, but also open up the possibility for the authors to get to know each other among themselves. And once, because if you’ve shared a stage together, then it’s also easy afterward to establish contact and say, we were together at the annual authors’ breakfast and and and, and here too contacts have already emerged that led to podcast episodes etc. being created together afterward. So I find that totally nice too, to experience or follow here too. And that shows that we’re together on the right path too, in quotes.
Yes, wonderful. Thank you so, so much. I think a lot has come together. And with that I’d like to use the opportunity to move into the closing round for today, and maybe also use the closing round to ask you, how did you find the room today? And are there maybe also any insights or aha moments you’d like to highlight again toward the end? Sabine, Rafael, Sonja gladly in that order.
Sabine. Now I’m up first. I’m preparing a pure breakfast for a friend. It was a really great room for me. I think so too. Earlier you also hit the nail on the head when you said maybe we should do a room to learn to say, I’m the best. I found it really great that you said that again, because I already have a problem with that. And what I also wanted to say, this diversity is amazing. Great. So I found the room good. It can never hurt to talk about that sometime. Thank you, have a nice day.
Great, thank you so, so much to you too. Marc?
I liked that a lot too, because usually in all the rooms we talk about what you could do, what could lead to change, but also to note for once what led each individual to change, what they specifically did, and how the result then looks. That was and is totally interesting.
Yes great, thank you so much, Marc. Rafael?
If I had to hold twelve, just so many “ancestors” for that. What Florence wrote, I just wanted to briefly say, that’s only a really small part from 25 years I’ve been in a mixed-race relationship, what I’ve experienced. I could say a lot about that too and certainly fill books with experiences that happened there, of the finest kind. Then I wanted to congratulate you too, I forgot that too. I was in the room yesterday but had a few things to do on the side and listened to you, with what fine words you described the room situation you experienced. And also the requirements and needs a room needs and has or something. I found that very nice. So really nice. Thank you for that. And I’m sticking around and looking forward to more rooms. Bye.
Thank you so, so much, Rafael. Thank you. Sonja.
Yes, I already said earlier that you’re a great role model for me in many points, and your going ahead motivates me incredibly to also change things myself and tackle them a bit more courageously and proactively, and that alone, so that one point alone is already so enriching for me. So I’m really glad to have discovered you here with your rooms, and I’ve never developed a routine before of going on social media regularly, and you’ve changed that for me, and that’s a really, really big compliment. For that you also have to really continuously deliver really good content, and that’s exactly what you do. So my big respect and my really heartfelt thanks. Thank you for your work.
Yes, thank you so, so much to you too, dear Sonja, and to everyone who participated. I think, on one hand, a lot of things came together, and I’m really, really grateful for that, that we could just use this too, and have this opportunity here to create this room for it. At the same time the insight, yes, we’re also allowed to come into exchange more strongly and much more about our strengths, abilities and so on too, a certain modesty here. Modesty isn’t anything negative, in quotes. It also has its advantages. And then also using the room, when it’s there, to talk about certain things too, and not feeling bad about that either, in quotes, I find that important too. And that was also a nice room for me again, to discover this insight together with you in this development, in this process, really, and to say, hey, let’s definitely pick up this topic sometime, it’s noted with me, and after we’ve treated the next overarching theme, we can gladly look at picking it up and bringing it in again somewhere it fits well, to look at creating the room here for it too, to really also talk about positive things here. And you could also grab that under a pitch or however you’d like to call it, but I think it’s an important aspect in our life, in our private and professional existence, to also talk about successes and share them too. Because how is the other person supposed to know, if we don’t talk about it? And here we sometimes maybe have wrong expectations, in quotes, through our modesty and think the others see it. But the others don’t notice it at all, because we don’t talk about it. And it’s not about going into arrogance or going into haughtiness, and still sharing certain experiences with others in an appropriate certain dosage too. And I find that totally important. And that’s why thank you also for this insight, so to speak, I’ll gladly take that with me and see that we make something out of it for you.
And yes, and with that I’d like to briefly announce again. I already mentioned it. We’ll continue tomorrow with our next overarching theme. Namely we’re now starting with my slogan, Pioneering Spirit with Brain, and will pick up various aspects under this umbrella. Starting with all sorts of different new technologies we’ll look at, then the individualistic view, so besides the application areas that generally exist here, to look at what I can draw from that for myself and my business. Also at the same time looking, yes, not just on the individual level, but also then in the societal context, advantages and disadvantages, dangers and so on, up to overall political discussions taking place here too, to look at that from the most varied perspectives. Great authors are invited here too. We have an expert talk planned in this context. So I’m really looking forward to that too, and so you’re warmly invited to keep joining starting tomorrow again at 8am, to deepen the various topic points together, to look at the various aspects. Tomorrow we’ll do a first approach. What actually comes to mind for us regarding the overarching theme Pioneering Spirit with Brain? What are all the components that could be picked up here? I’d like to check that together again, so to speak, through the gathering we always do at the start of an overarching theme, to check. We’ve of course already thought about certain things in advance, gathered and prepared certain topics, and are going into comparison here again. Maybe there are components we haven’t even thought of yet, or haven’t even considered yet. And then this room tomorrow is actually also the opportunity to add this or that, or maybe also note keywords, individual keywords for the individual rooms again. And so I’m looking forward to starting together with you tomorrow at eight to do the first approach here, and then we’ll go into the various depths and maybe also get to know a lot of new technologies. For those who haven’t engaged with that yet, for those who have already engaged with it, it’s certainly also interesting to share their experiences, their contributions, and let their know-how flow in too, to then keep looking together at what develops from that and what insights we can jointly generate from this. In that sense I say once more a really, really big thank you to all of you, and I’m looking forward to tomorrow morning at 8am here again at Deep Talk. Until then. Ciao.
